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I finally figured it out. The VFD has an on-board potentiometer that was interfering with the output of the pmdx-106. There is a jumper in the VFD for on-board or external input. After making that change I had to change the wiring from the 106 to the VFD:

J6 NO --> FOR (VFD PD044 = 02)
J6 COM --> DCM

J8 NO --> REV (VFD PD0045 = 03)
J8 COM --> DCM

J2 LOW --> AGM
J2 SET --> VI

After making those changes I was able to run the calibration on the PMDX-106

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I checked the  pmdx-106, output voltage on J2. On first press of the test button I get 7.67v and the vfd goes to 100%. On the second press the voltage drops to 2.046v and the vfd stays at 100%. VFD will not go to 30%. In Mach3 I can turn the spindle on in forward or reverse with M3 & M4 but I cannot set the speed.

Settings:

PMDX-122 Settings:

J5 Pin 11 --> X Home/Limit
J5 Pin 12 --> Y Home/Limit
J5 Pin 13 --> Z Home/Limit

J8 +5v --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)
J8 Pin 14 --> PMDX-106 J9 DIR IN
J8 Pin 16 --> PMDX-106 J3 PWM IN
J8 Pin 17 --> PMDX-106 J3 CP-OK
J8 GND --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)

JP1 +5v/Pin 2-9
JP2 Pin 2-9/OK
JP3 Output Enable/CP-OK
JP4 Pin 17/OK
JP5 DIR/OUT

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PMDX-106 Settings:
J3 CP-OK --> Pin 17
J3 PWM IN --> Pin 16

J9 DIR IN --> Pin 14

J2 LOW --> VFD (VI) Analog Voltage Frequency Reference Input (0-+10v corresponding to the highest operating frequency)
J2 SET --> VFD (AGM) Common terminal of analog and control signals

J4 +5v --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)
J4 GND --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)

(See attached image of J6 & J8 wiring)
J6 NO --> VFD (D1, FOR)
J6 COM --> VFD (DCM) Common terminal of digital and control signals
J6 NC --> VFD (D2, REV)

J8 NO --> VFD (D1, FOR)
J8 COM --> VFD (DCM) Common terminal of digital and control signals

JP1 Loc/Ref
JP2 0-10v

Dip Switches (all off)

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VFD: Huanyang HY01D511B
3PHAC110 +- 20% 50Hz +- 5Hz
3PH 0~110AC 1.5KW 13A 0.50 - 400.00Hz

VFD Parameter set:

PD001 = 1 (external control)
PD002 = 1 (external control)
PD003 = 400 (Main Frequency)
PD004 = 400 (Base Frequency)
PD005 = 400 (Max Operating Frequency)
PD006 = 2.5 (Intermediate Frequency)
PD007 = 20.00 (Min Frequency)
PD008 =110 (Max Voltage)
PD009 = 14 (Intermediate Voltage)
PD010 = 7 (Min Voltage)
PD011 = 120 (Frequency Lower Limit)
PD013 = 1 (Vendor Recommended Setting)
PD014 = 5 (Accelleration time in sec)
PD015 = 5 (Deceleration time in sec)
PD027 = 0.50 (Starting Frequency)
PD028 = 0.50 (Stopping Frequency)
PD070 = 1 (Set Control Voltage to 0-5v) (setting to " = 0", 0-10v, causes the spindle to run at 50%)
PD072 = 400 (Higher Analog Frequency)
PD073 = 120 (Lower Analog Frequency)
PD141 = 110 (Rated Motor Voltage) (From Motor Label)
PD142 = 5.0 (Rated Motor Current) (From Motor Label)
PD143 = 2 (Motor Poles)
PD144 = 3000 (Rated Motor Revolutions)
PD0176 = 60hz (Inverter Frequency Standard)

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Mach3 Settings:
See attached XML file

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Motion Controller:

UC100

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I have changed the BOB to a PMDX-122 and with some help from another forum I now have the spindle running fwd and rev from Mach3. In test mode on the 106 I cannot get the spindle to reduce speed to 30%, it stays at 100%. I am also unable to change speed in Mach3. I suspect it is a VFD setting but I believe I have everything set correctly. I did find that PD070 was set to 0-5v analog input. I cahnged it to 0-10v but with this setting the spindle only goes to 50% (200hz) and I still cannot change speed. The 106 J1 & J2 jumpers are set for 0-10vdc.

Ant thoughts on what needs to be changed would be appreciated.

Jay

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My second question is how the PDMX-106 is wired to the VFD.

It is a Huangyang 1.5kw vfd.
The VFD control inputs are:

FWD  =    forward rum
REV  =    reverse run
DCM  =   common terminal for digital inputs
VI      =      0-10v analog input
ACM  =      analog input ground

I understand from the manual that VI = Connector J2 SET and ACM = J2 LOW. jumper on ref-to-pot/local

How does the PMDX-106 hookup to the VFD FWD, REV & DCM terminals? J6 & J8? and if so to which terminals. nc, com or no?  or???

Jay

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[Amended] I have changed the subject to reflect the current configuration and added information on the current setup and problems below.

Jay

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I got it. I'm a bit thick in the head sometimes. I set PD072 to 105hz and re-ran the Calibration. Tuned the spindle to 6000 rpm and all is working perfect.

Thank you again for your time!

Best Regards,

Jay

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Steve,

A bit of a breakthrough. I went through the VFD settings and found PD072 -" Higher Analog Frequency" to have been  factory set at 400hz. I changed this to 105hz and it slowed everything down too much so I put it at 200hz and now I am getting close to the correct values. With the trim pot at full CCW at 30% I now get 34hz which is a little higher than I should have. I could possibly tune the PD072 value but I'm not sure what this setting is for?

I believe we are out of the realm of PMDX issues so thank you for your help.

Jay

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Steve, I freally appreciate your feedback.

Running the CAL test with the pot set full CCW I get no increase in spindle speed. Always 100% (105hz) no matter where the pot is. At 30% with the pot at full CCW the VFD drops to 67hz. With the pot at a half tun the 30% speed is 94hz.

So it sounds like it is a VFD setting?

Thanks,
Jay

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Steve,

That made some progress but now (on pulley 1) if I enter s3000 or above I get 100% (6000 rpm). S1500 gives me appox 3000 rpm. So it appears to be doubling somewhere. I'm wondering if there is another VFD setting that needs to be set?

Thanks,
Jay

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These are my setting if it is of any help.

PMDX-126 BOB, PMDX-107 Motor Control, ESS Motion Controller.

MOTOR, 220v, 2hp, 3ph, 1725rpm, inverter duty, class F

VFD = Huanyang HY02D223B Settings

pd001 = 1, run command = external terminals
PD002 = 1, operating frequency source = external terminals
pd003 = 60.00, main frequency
pdoo4 = 60.00, base frequency
pd005 = 120.00, max frequency
pd008 = 220, max voltage
pd141 = 220, rated motor voltage
pd142 = 8.0, rated motor current
pd143 = 4, motor pole number
pd144 = 1725, rated motor revolution
pd176 = 60.00, inverter frequency standard


ESS Settings

SPINDLE
PWM, base hz 25


Mach3 Settings

RELAY CONTROL, disabled

MOTOR CONTROL
Use Spindle Motor Output
PWM Control
PWM Base Freq = 25
Minimum PWM 5%

SPINDLE MOTOR TUNING
Steps per = 1000
Velocity = 60
Acceleration = 5000

PULLEY SELECTION
Pulley 1, Min Speed = 300, Max Speed = 6000, Ratio = 2 (4" motor pulley, 2" spindle pulley)
Pulley 2, Min Speed = 75, Max Speed = 1500, Ratio = 0.5 (2" motor pulley, 4" spindle pulley)

Thanks
Jay

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Found one problem. I did not have one of the VFD parameters set for the proper frequency input.

Now when I run the test I get 100% (105hz) on the first button push and approximately 60%(67hz) on the second button push. It still does not go to 30%.

In mach3 I have the pulley setup for Max rpm of 6000 (105hz) Min rpm of 300 (5%) and a pulley ratio of 2 (4" motor pulley/ 2" spindle pulley). I don't know what the reverse box is for but I have tried at ratio od 0.5, 1 and 2 with the reverse box checked and un-checked with no difference. It always goes to 100% on an M command regardless of the S command setting. I can use the override to slow or speed up the spindle.

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Also when I run the test mode the VFD will not go to 30% on the second test button push.

Jay

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Stave, thank you for the clarification on the relays. The manual had me thinking K1 and K2 were disabled because of the 107.

I have the spindle turning on/off with Mach3 but I cannot set the speed. The spindle always goes to full speed regardless of the "S" command. Mach3 thinks it is going to the correct speed but it is always 100%.

I followed the AN002 so I'm not sure where I have gone wrong?

Jay

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Steve,

Thank you for confirming the control wiring.

I am still unsure of the settings for JP1 & JP2 and the config switches 7 & 8 on the pmdx-126.

Additionally, with 4 axis and the 107 all the output pins from PP#1 are used. To control two solid state relays for coolant and mist do I use A, B, C or D on J5 on PP#2? 

Jay

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I have my PMDX-126 and ESS working with no problems. I am now converting the gear head mill to a variable speed belt drive. I need some help verifying if I have the correct connections from the PMDX-107 to the VFD, how the jumpers on the PMDX-126 need to be configured and what settings on the PMDX-126 need to be made to control two solid state relays for coolant and mist.

I have the VFD running the motor in manual mode so that is all okay. The VFD is a Huanyang HY02D223B.

These are the settings I think are correct.

PMDX-107 ---> VFD
Pin 6 - Rev/Dir ---->       REV (reverse run)
Pin 5 - Fwd/Run ---->    FOR (forward run)
Pin 4 - COM (common terminal for relays, pins 5 & 6) ----> DCM (common terminal of digital and control signals)
Pin 3 - Aref (not used)
Pin 2 - Aout (spindle speed analog control voltage) ----> VI (analog voltage frequency reference input)
Pin 1 - Agnd (VSD ground reference) ----> ACM (common terminal of analog and control signals)

PMDX-107  Config settings (dip switches)
Config 1 = Off (Normal Mode)
Config 2 = Off (Normal Mode)
Config 3 = Off (relays operate as for and reverse control signals)
Config 4 = Off (charge pump signal required)
Slow = Off (fast PWM filter response) (may need to be changed to slow if VFD cannot keep up)
5v/10v = Off (10v reference)
 
PMDX-126 Settings
Config 1 = Open
Config 2 = Closed
Config 3 = Closed
Config 4 = Closed
Config 5 = Closed
Config 6 = Closed
Config 7 = ???
Config 8 = ???

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