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PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« on: June 07, 2015, 12:07:16 PM »
[Amended] I have changed the subject to reflect the current configuration and added information on the current setup and problems below.

Jay
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 11:33:12 PM by jbolt »

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Re: PMDX-106 and simple BOB
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2015, 10:15:48 PM »
My second question is how the PDMX-106 is wired to the VFD.

It is a Huangyang 1.5kw vfd.
The VFD control inputs are:

FWD  =    forward rum
REV  =    reverse run
DCM  =   common terminal for digital inputs
VI      =      0-10v analog input
ACM  =      analog input ground

I understand from the manual that VI = Connector J2 SET and ACM = J2 LOW. jumper on ref-to-pot/local

How does the PMDX-106 hookup to the VFD FWD, REV & DCM terminals? J6 & J8? and if so to which terminals. nc, com or no?  or???

Jay

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Re: PMDX-106 and PMDX-122
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2015, 01:45:03 AM »
I have changed the BOB to a PMDX-122 and with some help from another forum I now have the spindle running fwd and rev from Mach3. In test mode on the 106 I cannot get the spindle to reduce speed to 30%, it stays at 100%. I am also unable to change speed in Mach3. I suspect it is a VFD setting but I believe I have everything set correctly. I did find that PD070 was set to 0-5v analog input. I cahnged it to 0-10v but with this setting the spindle only goes to 50% (200hz) and I still cannot change speed. The 106 J1 & J2 jumpers are set for 0-10vdc.

Ant thoughts on what needs to be changed would be appreciated.

Jay

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2015, 11:43:08 PM »
I checked the  pmdx-106, output voltage on J2. On first press of the test button I get 7.67v and the vfd goes to 100%. On the second press the voltage drops to 2.046v and the vfd stays at 100%. VFD will not go to 30%. In Mach3 I can turn the spindle on in forward or reverse with M3 & M4 but I cannot set the speed.

Settings:

PMDX-122 Settings:

J5 Pin 11 --> X Home/Limit
J5 Pin 12 --> Y Home/Limit
J5 Pin 13 --> Z Home/Limit

J8 +5v --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)
J8 Pin 14 --> PMDX-106 J9 DIR IN
J8 Pin 16 --> PMDX-106 J3 PWM IN
J8 Pin 17 --> PMDX-106 J3 CP-OK
J8 GND --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)

JP1 +5v/Pin 2-9
JP2 Pin 2-9/OK
JP3 Output Enable/CP-OK
JP4 Pin 17/OK
JP5 DIR/OUT

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PMDX-106 Settings:
J3 CP-OK --> Pin 17
J3 PWM IN --> Pin 16

J9 DIR IN --> Pin 14

J2 LOW --> VFD (VI) Analog Voltage Frequency Reference Input (0-+10v corresponding to the highest operating frequency)
J2 SET --> VFD (AGM) Common terminal of analog and control signals

J4 +5v --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)
J4 GND --> (From PC Power Supply Lead)

(See attached image of J6 & J8 wiring)
J6 NO --> VFD (D1, FOR)
J6 COM --> VFD (DCM) Common terminal of digital and control signals
J6 NC --> VFD (D2, REV)

J8 NO --> VFD (D1, FOR)
J8 COM --> VFD (DCM) Common terminal of digital and control signals

JP1 Loc/Ref
JP2 0-10v

Dip Switches (all off)

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VFD: Huanyang HY01D511B
3PHAC110 +- 20% 50Hz +- 5Hz
3PH 0~110AC 1.5KW 13A 0.50 - 400.00Hz

VFD Parameter set:

PD001 = 1 (external control)
PD002 = 1 (external control)
PD003 = 400 (Main Frequency)
PD004 = 400 (Base Frequency)
PD005 = 400 (Max Operating Frequency)
PD006 = 2.5 (Intermediate Frequency)
PD007 = 20.00 (Min Frequency)
PD008 =110 (Max Voltage)
PD009 = 14 (Intermediate Voltage)
PD010 = 7 (Min Voltage)
PD011 = 120 (Frequency Lower Limit)
PD013 = 1 (Vendor Recommended Setting)
PD014 = 5 (Accelleration time in sec)
PD015 = 5 (Deceleration time in sec)
PD027 = 0.50 (Starting Frequency)
PD028 = 0.50 (Stopping Frequency)
PD070 = 1 (Set Control Voltage to 0-5v) (setting to " = 0", 0-10v, causes the spindle to run at 50%)
PD072 = 400 (Higher Analog Frequency)
PD073 = 120 (Lower Analog Frequency)
PD141 = 110 (Rated Motor Voltage) (From Motor Label)
PD142 = 5.0 (Rated Motor Current) (From Motor Label)
PD143 = 2 (Motor Poles)
PD144 = 3000 (Rated Motor Revolutions)
PD0176 = 60hz (Inverter Frequency Standard)

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Mach3 Settings:
See attached XML file

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Motion Controller:

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« Last Edit: June 14, 2015, 12:02:52 AM by jbolt »

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2015, 10:54:25 AM »
I finally figured it out. The VFD has an on-board potentiometer that was interfering with the output of the pmdx-106. There is a jumper in the VFD for on-board or external input. After making that change I had to change the wiring from the 106 to the VFD:

J6 NO --> FOR (VFD PD044 = 02)
J6 COM --> DCM

J8 NO --> REV (VFD PD0045 = 03)
J8 COM --> DCM

J2 LOW --> AGM
J2 SET --> VI

After making those changes I was able to run the calibration on the PMDX-106

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2015, 01:37:16 AM »
I am late to this party, but wanted to thank Jay for being persistent in finding and documenting his problem.

Despite helping many people with Huanyang inverters, I had never run into this issue with the internal potentiometer and was unaware of the physical jumper inside the inverter. I always thought you could make all the necessary configuration changes using only parameters.

The jumper is called J1 and is on the main board to the right of the terminal blocks for the control circuit connections. It needs to be in the left hand position across pins 1 and 2 in order to allow external control voltage inputs to work.
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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 08:43:06 AM »
I am also working on this VFD. but I am using PMDX 107... so i need wiring diagram of VFD with PMDX-107

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Aqsa

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016, 10:16:24 PM »
I am also working on this VFD. but I am using PMDX 107... so i need wiring diagram of VFD with PMDX-107
See figure 2 in the PMDX-107 manual for the analog connections:
PMDX-107 "Agnd" goes to VFD "AGM"
PMDX-107 "Aout" goes to VFD "VI"

For the forward/reverse controls (using jbolt's connections from above):
PMDX-107 "COM" goes to VFD "DCM"
PMDX-107 "Fwd/Run" goes to VFD "FOR" (with VFD register PD044 = 02)
PMDX-107 "Rev/Dir" goes to VFD "REV" (with VFD register PD0045 = 03)

See sections 4.1 through 4.5 for the DIP switches (hint - "Normal" mode, Relays as "Forward" and "Reverse", probably "Require Charge Pump OK", "fast PWM filter response" and 10V reference).

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 03:46:03 AM »
Thanks bob

And how can I register PD045 and PD044??

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 11:19:09 AM »
And how can I register PD045 and PD044??
The registers are settings that can be programmed from the VFD front panel.  I don't know which model VFD  you have, but there should be a button on the front panel labeled something like "PGM" (for "program").  Pressing that button will display the various "registers", each register has a number (like the "PD044" or other values mentioned in jbolt's post above).  The up and down arrow buttons cycle through all of the registers.  Each register controls some aspect of the VFD's behavior.  If you have the manual for your VFD, it should describe the programming procedure and also list all of the regsiters and what the values mean.

In the case of the 2 registers I mentioned, I admit that I just copied those register numbers from jbolt's post, presuming that your VFD would have the same register layout.  There should be one or two programmable registers that determine how the "FOR" and "REV" terminals are used.  Often they can be "forward" and "reverse", or "run" and "direction".  You want to program them for "forward" and "reverse".

There is a post in this like that describes how to select a register and change its value:
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/129938-heck-program-huanyang-vfd.html

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 03:38:50 AM »
Bob,

Thank you. it helped me alot understanding VFD. I am gonna set the rejisters. amd will inform you after setting this.

Aqsa

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 11:08:12 AM »
I have HAUNYANG INVERTER of HY-M0D4A type. And i checked its manual.. rejister PD045 is for 'FOR' and PD045 is for 'REV'. and there factory setting is 2 and 3.
So i guess now I don't have to set any rejister for this..
Am i rite?

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 06:17:43 PM »
I don't seem to be able to find a copy of the manual for that model on-line.  I would also check register PD070 which (based on the post above from jbolt) determines whether the analog input for speed control is 0 to 5V or 0 to 10V.

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2016, 11:45:47 AM »
I set soo many rejisters. but mach4 is not controlling VFD.. I am gonna attach some photos of my VFD manual

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Re: PMDX-106, PMDX-122, Huanyang VFD setup)
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2016, 11:46:48 AM »
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